Search arXivSearch

arXiv · 2508.12447

Destruction of "Peas in a Pod?" A Candidate Multi-planet System Around the Nearby, Bright Star, HD208487

Abstract

We re-investigate the HD208487 system to test the reality of the proposed HD208487c world. We also search for additional companions using applied Bayesian statistics and 15+ years of new RV data from the HARPS and the PFS instruments that were taken post-discovery of HD208487b. The RV data was analyzed with GLS Periodograms, followed by Bayesian analysis using the EMPEROR code. We scrutinised various stellar activity indices to search for any corresponding peaks in the power spectra, correlations with the RV measurements, or significant signals from a Bayesian analysis methodology. Finally, photometric data was checked to test for any transits or possible activity manifestations that could lead to possible false RV signals or excess noise. Our analysis points towards a candidate second planet in the system, positioned near the period of a previously proposed and subsequently challenged signal. This signal, HD208487c, would relate to a cool Saturn with an orbital period of 923.06 +2.02 -2.76 d and a minimum mass of Mj sini = 0.32 +/- 0.01Mj. Our analysis also gives rise to a newly discovered candidate planet, HD208487d, which would be the result of a cool super-Neptune/sub-Saturn with a period of 1380.13 +19.20 -8.25 d and a minimum mass of Mj sini = 0.15 +/- 0.01Mj. Neither stellar activity indices nor photometric data show signals statistically matching these periods. We have uncovered a candidate three planet system that would consist of an inner gas giant, a central Saturn and an outer super-Neptune/sub-Saturn. A dynamical analysis suggests that gravitational scattering of an initially ordered, equally-spaced system in a long resonant chain of six Neptunes can explain the current proposed architecture of HD208487. More RVs may also shed light on the reality of a fourth Doppler signal uncovered in the data that sits close to the 2:1 period-ratio with signal of HD208487c.

Explore related subjects

Keep this discovery

Explore connections, maps & timelines

BibTeXRIS

Rafael I. Rubenstein, James S. Jenkins, Pablo A. Peña R., Carolina Charalambous, Mikko Tuomi, Douglas R. Alves, José Vines, Matías R. Díaz, Suman Saha, R. Paul Butler, Jeffrey D. Crane, Steve Shectman, Johanna K. Teske, David Osip, Zahra Essack, Benjamin T. Montet, Adina D. Feinstein, Cristobal Petrovich. 2025-09-01. Destruction of "Peas in a Pod?" A Candidate Multi-planet System Around the Nearby, Bright Star, HD208487. https://doi.org/10.1051/0004-6361%2F202449563

Cite the original work for its findings. Save a collection to share your selection of sources.

KEEP EXPLORING

Related papers

Volcanic Satellites and Ion Escape in the Magnetospheres of Ultra-Cool and Brown Dwarf Stars

Radio emissions at $\sim$ GHz frequencies of ultra-cool dwarf and brown dwarf stars suggest the presence of radiation belts not unlike Jupiter's. We investigate the possibility the inferred magnetospheric plasma at the primary star is sourced by an active planet or via ion escape modeled as a weak ionospheric outflow. We consider indirect methods to estimate the magnetospheric plasma mass flow from auroral radio emission and apply them to the ultra-cool dwarf LSR J1835+3259. We find that an ionospheric outflow is a viable source of the order of $10^{5}$ kg s$^{-1}$, if the ionospheric effective Pedersen conductance is lower than $\sim 0.02$ mho. On the other hand, a tidally-heated volcanic satellite with the same mass and radius as Io and an orbit with a semimajor axis lower than about $10$ stellar radii, whose eccentricity ($e \sim 10^{-3}$) is maintained by perturbations by other planets in the system, is found to be a viable source of magnetospheric plasma without strong limitations on the ionospheric conductance. The volcanic satellite scenario is also naturally in sync with the recent finding that ultra-cool dwarfs with distant substellar or stellar companions are remarkably more likely to be detected as radio emitters.

astro-ph.EP

Tidal Demise: The Evolution and Fate of a Hypothetical Venus Moon

Venus possesses no natural satellite, raising the question whether a formed moon could have survived. We explore the tidal evolution of a Venus-moon system, coupling Venus's spin to the satellite's orbit under tides from the moon and Sun. We survey spin period ($P_0 = 5$--100~hr), moon mass ($M_m = 0.01$--$10~M_{\rm Moon}$), eccentricity, quality factor, and initial semi-major axis under both constant-$Q$ and constant time lag models. Survival depends on competition between outward migration ($\propto M_m$) and synchronous radius expansion ($\propto M_m^2$): for circular orbits around rapidly spinning Venus ($P_0 \lesssim 12$~hr), a lunar-mass satellite survives the age of the Solar System in both models. For $P_0 \lesssim 10$~hr, eccentricity pumping can destabilize low-mass satellites, while for $P_0 \gtrsim 15$~hr or $M_m \gtrsim 2~M_{\rm Moon}$ the synchronous radius overtakes the orbit and drives Roche destruction within $\sim$0.03--1.7~Gyr in the constant-$Q$ model. The constant time lag model instead permits quasi-synchronous survival for massive moons at fast spin. Explaining Venus's present state requires satisfying two constraints simultaneously: loss of the satellite and despinning of an initially rapid rotator. Both are met only within a restricted region of parameter space, favoring moderate post-impact spin periods and lunar-to-super-lunar masses. Giant impact simulations predict spin periods $\gtrsim$12~hr for Venus's present rotation, placing a lunar-mass satellite at the survival boundary. For last-impact conditions within this region, the present absence of a Venusian satellite arises through tidal evolution alone; a subsequent catastrophic stripping event, while capable of removing a moon, is not required.

astro-ph.EP

Evidence for an Extended Hydrogen Outflow on WASP-12 b

Recent observations of atmospheric escape from planets orbiting early-type stars indicate that planets with higher Roche filling factors have significantly higher mass loss rates. For three of these planets, full-orbit observations have revealed the presence of large leading and trailing tails of escaping planetary material. These 3D outflow geometries encode information about the underlying outflow physics, and can also be used to constrain their stellar wind properties and to predict their long-term orbital evolution. We present new evidence for extended H$α$ and H$β$ absorption from escaping hydrogen for a fourth planet, WASP-12 b. We observed WASP-12 b with the Keck Planet Finder on Keck I over a period of approximately eight hours centered on the transit. We find a H$α$ and H$β$ absorption signal in the stellar rest frame that is strongest during the transit (H$α$ amplitude: $2.66\pm0.25\%$, H$β$ amplitude: $2.88\pm0.43\%$), with evidence of both pre- and post-transit absorption. This measurement is consistent with outflow models where the escaping gas overflows the planet's Roche lobe and is advected into the stellar rest frame before being tidally sheared into extended tails. This outflow behavior is qualitatively similar to previous H$α$ observations of this planet as well as observations of extended outflows from other gas giants orbiting early-type stars.

astro-ph.EP