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Taming Softmax at the Limits of Muon: A Unified Approach through Hilbert Geometry

Aditya Somasundaram·Charles Guille-Escuret·Alexander Moreno·Zhengzhong Liu·Eric Xing
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Muon controls weight updates through the RMS movement of a linear layer's output. This implicitly treats the linear output as a proxy for the full module, including the nonlinearity that follows. This proxy can be misleading for softmax, where the RMS shift in activations does not faithfully measure the change in the output distribution. We propose Hilbert distance as a natural metric for bounding changes in these output distributions. Hilbert distance bounds changes in cross-entropy loss and limits probability redistribution. For softmax, it takes the form of the variation seminorm of the preactivation perturbation, allowing probability constraints to be expressed as parameter constraints. Formulating the steepest descent problem with a Hilbert distance constraint brings two recently proposed methods under a unified mathematical framework. For the LM head, solving a row-wise approximation to the resulting diameter-constrained problem leads us to RowNorm \citep{pethick2025trainingdeeplearningmodels}. For scaled dot-product attention, the same principle yields the first-order query--key steepest descent problem underlying Compositional Muon \citep{keigwin2026compositional}. These connections motivate using Hilbert distance as a guiding principle for optimizer design in softmax modules.

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Aditya Somasundaram, Charles Guille-Escuret, Alexander Moreno, Zhengzhong Liu, Eric Xing. 2026-10-13. Taming Softmax at the Limits of Muon: A Unified Approach through Hilbert Geometry. https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17588

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